Monday, April 20, 2015

Means Testing, Marxism and Chris Christie

Remember that old book, Animal Farm?  That glorious, little book which every American child reads in grade school and whose lessons are promptly forgotten by so many in adulthood?  Yes, that’s the one.  It’s a story about achieving communism through incrementalism.  Here’s how it works:  you begin with what seems like a noble purpose and you establish a set of rules.  Then slowly, over time, the powers that be begin to change the rules…one by one…, until one day people wake up and what they have no longer resembles the noble thing that they were sold, but that’s okay because most of them no longer remember what the noble thing was to begin with.  Anyway, it’s then too late, because the changes tipped the scales in someone’s favor, and someone isn’t about to give that up without a fight.

The history of Social Security in this nation is a case study in incrementalism.  When it first began in 1937 the payroll tax to fund Social Security was 2%, half being paid by the employee and half paid by the employer.  Over time the tax has been gradually increased to its current total of 12.4%.  That’s an increase in the tax rate of 520%.  But hold on.  The maximum earnings that could be taxed in 1937 were $3,000, which equals $48,900 in today’s dollars; however, instead of the maximum being $48,900 today the maximum has been gradually increased to $118,500, an increase of more than 142%.  Since its inception there have been gradual but expansive additions to the roster of people who qualify for Social Security; and over time there have been changes to the minimum age at which benefits are paid out.  Let’s not forget, also, that at the time it was enacted it was controversial to begin wtih, and it’s constitutionality was challenged in the SCOTUS much like Obamacare was.

With each decade, the realities of simple math and human nature that point to the program’s inevitable doom have prompted our ever-resourceful lawmakers to propose changing yet another rule.  They want to “fix” Social Security by “means-testing” people and withholding benefits from anyone who is above a certain means.  Means-testing has probably been quietly bandied about for quite some time among the busy little bees in our government because, let’s face it, it would mean the realization of the wet dreams of the socialists and Marxists.  Lately, though, certain philosophically-challenged Republicans have brought the proposal to the forefront of the public discussion on Social Security in what seems a misguided effort to appear to be bold, fiscal conservatives.  Paul Ryan started beating the drum for means-testing a few years back.  Now Chris Christie is jumping on the bandwagon in an apparent effort to salvage his fading presidential aspirations.  Right on cue NPR’s Mara Liasson called Christie “brave” when the subject was discussed on Special Report yesterday, so there you go.  It is now “brave” to propose withholding a promised benefit to someone who has fulfilled his end of the bargain.  Gee, give yourself a pat on the back, Governor Christie. 

For anyone who still doesn’t understand what’s wrong with means testing for Social Security retirement benefits here’s a quiz:  tell me what the difference is between means-testing and Marxism (“From each according to his ability; to each according to his need”), because I can’t tell the difference. 

“But CW,” some will argue, “The country is drowning in debt, yet we are giving Social Security benefits to millionaires and billionaires and the money could run out.” 

First let me ask:  Does anyone really believe that the Koch brothers or Bill Gates are going to waste their time filling out applications to receive Social Security?  Trust me it is not the “one percenters” who are draining the mythical trust fund.  Social Security revenue doesn’t keep up with expectations largely because the usual free-loaders have elbowed their way to the trough.  Consequently, means-testing will ultimately necessitate eliminating payments not just to the wealthy, but to the middle and upper-middle class, because that is the only way to keep up with the free-loaders.  Eventually it will be strictly a mechanism for transferring wealth from the earners to the non-earners, because we all know that no politician will ever suggest cutting off the free-loaders.  The last thing Republicans should do is to pave the way for legalized theft by “fixing” this mess via means-testing, and anyone who suggests doing so has surrendered any claim to being a conservative in my book. 

If you’re not sufficiently irritated yet, let’s go ahead and consider what happens when we adopt means-testing.  How will the government know if you’re too wealthy to receive benefits?  Well, you’re going to have to give them all of your financial information every year, right?  Tell them how much you have in the bank, how much you have in your retirement account, what your property is worth, etc., etc., etc.  So much for privacy.  I’m sure nothing bad will come from sharing this information with the government.

In her recent coming out video (coming out for POTUS candidate, that is), liberal Democrat Hillary Clinton promised to help us do more than “just get by,” but allowing most of us to just get by is exactly what the socialists want and hope to achieve by incrementally siphoning off anything over and above what they think we should have.  This is not a fight about keeping benefits.  It’s a fight about freedom, and holding politicians in our government accountable to the promises they make so that maybe one day they will cease making false promises.  Don’t hold your breath on that one.



~CW





39 comments:

  1. Hillary will be the next potus!

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  2. Just re-elect John McCain and vote for whichever neocon turd FoxNews tells you to and everything will be fine!

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    1. So who is daddy Rockwell telling YOU to vote for?

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  3. For an Independent like me its very simple…unless Rand Paul is nominated I vote Democrat again, just like I did in 2008 and 2012.

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    1. “Independent” is just a meaningless label and Rand Paul is a REPUBLICAN. Also, you’re a liar. You didn’t vote Democrat.

      Anything else?

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    2. Nope, you've been warned…again.

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    3. Please accept my heartfelt gratitude for your warning. I will be certain to take note that should they not get their way, a handful of pseudo libertarians will risk their own futures in order to teach us all a lesson.

      Got it! Thanks.

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    4. I always enjoy GOP nominating season…its funny to see big-govt. Republicans pretending to be limited-govt 'constitutionalists' in order to get Useful Idiots 'conservative' votes and even funnier to see the Useful Idiots Cons play along w/the lie!

      We'll get to hear a bunch of blathering about a flat/fair-tax (which no one has any real intention of pushing for once elected), candidates like Con celeb Ben Carson pretending to be interested in running (when its just a nice way to increase name-recognition so he can sell another book to the Useful Idiots), hear the Reagan Myth resurrected yet again, hear the myth that the GOP is the party of 'small-govt' also regurgitated, and a bunch of Patriotard/Military-worship BS about who "loves 'Merica more"…

      And then the Useful Idiots will go an nominate the next Reagan/Bush/Dole/McCain/Romney, LMFAO!

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    5. Given that you have yet to impress me with your wisdom or intelligence throughout all of your various reincarnations I am not particularly interested in what you enjoy or are tickled by. It seriously disappoints me that this is all you’ve got. You’re pretty much a one-trick pony, laughing yourself silly in the corner of the room. At least the last anarcho-libertarians were somewhat capable of debate or had a sense of humor.

      If you’d like to waste your time re-arranging your tired rants to comment here, knock your socks off. It only takes a second to press the “delete” button.

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    6. Keep playing along w/the GOP's Big Lie…in a way I envy your simplistic worldview (Democrats bad, Republicans good) that requires zero thinking (your voting decisions for the rest of your life have already been decided)…

      As an Independent Voter I Stand With Rand!

      Fail to nominate him and your Team will once again be electorally crushed come November 2016.

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    7. I allowed your comment so that if there are other readers they can see how quickly you resorted to the usual straw-man tactic. It didn’t take long at all! My world view is not “Democrats bad, Republicans good;” but that’s the easiest fight for the intellectual cowards to take on. I think there are plenty of bad Republicans and I haven’t been bashful about saying so.

      So you’re an “Independent” supporting a Republican. So what?

      It’s a further sign of intellectual cowardice that you try to threaten people into voting for Rand Paul instead of making the case for why you think he’s the best candidate. What’s wrong? Are you worried that “His last name is Paul” isn’t a convincing enough argument? I think you dramatically overestimate the power of the Paul followers, but I would have been open to hearing the case for Paul if you weren’t such a smack-talker. I guess I’ll wait for someone more reasonable to come along.

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  4. P.S.

    How stupid and cowardly you neocon chicken-hawks who still think Iraq-Af and "spreading democracy in the Middle East" were good ideas?

    How hypocritical are you Fox-bots who keep blathering on about Hillary's "Benghazi lies" but whom couldn't care less that Bush lied us into war?

    Do you people ever consider the possibility that YOU ARE THE PROBLEM?

    Tough Q's I know you're not used to here at your echo-chamber…got any answers?

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    1. Things are getting desperate when you’re dragging out the old “Bush lied” canard. Maybe you’d like to be the first person who can actually tell me what this supposed “lie” was? And as for my “blathering on” about Hillary and Benghazi, maybe you’d like to produce some evidence of that, since I can’t recall spending any time at all on it. Finally, maybe you’d actually like to ask my opinion on the “spreading democracy” thing before claiming that I think it was a good idea.

      The problem with you and the other Lew Rockwell bots is that you’ve spent all this time dreaming up your fantasy nemesis and frothing at the mouth for the chance to “debate” him (LOL – it’s probably been a year now and I haven’t seen you debate yet!) that you keep making a fool of yourself trying to force every conservative blogger to fit neatly into your pre-formed mold so he (or she, in my case) will be an easy target for you. You remind me of the ladybug in the book, “The Grouchy Ladybug.” She keeps challenging other creatures to a fight but when they don’t back down she yells, “You’re not big enough to fight!” and she flies away. Hahahahahahaha! That’s so YOU! As I said, you’re a big disappointment.

      Adios.

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    2. Hey, CoWard…still think the military are "heroes who protect our freedom"?

      A massive U.S. military drill dubbed “Jade Helm 15” lists Texas, Utah, and part of California as “hostile” or “insurgent pocket” territory.

      https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/no_author/to-subdue-rebellious-citizens/

      Hey, have you guys heard about this Operation Jade Helm shindig? Yeah, it kind of came as a surprise to me, too. I didn’t know I’m about to be living in a region soon to be occupied by a U.S. military invasion force. I didn’t know the Southwest was a hotbed of insurgent activity, or when the revolution actually started.

      https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/jack-perry/us-military-to-invade-and-occupy/

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    3. Apparently you need to be educated on how the military works in this country. The president of the U.S. (that would be Barack Obama at the moment – the man YOU SAY YOU VOTED FOR) is the Commander in Chief. HE initiates and/or signs off on activities like those described above. I don’t like the idea of military drills in our cities, but these are the kinds of things one might expect when an anti-American leftist is in charge. I kind of doubt that the rank and file were given a choice about participating in the exercise. They are following orders, because that’s what soldiers usually do, and thus far they are not interfering with anyone’s rights. If that changes, then many of us will be happy that we fought for our rights to be armed.

      It’s quite funny that you think the military is the villain here. Would you propose that we disband our military? Try running that by your candidate, Rand Paul. I would absolutely love to hear his response.

      We can have our own military or be subject to the will of other nations via their militaries. Take your pick, Einstein.

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    4. I always get a kick out of conservatives using the "Nazi Excuse" (just following orders) in defense of the heroic freedom-defending military…

      Its also ironic that you (w/o realizing it apparently) admit your heroes are no better than the nazi's you constantly use as boogiemen ("Saddam is the next Hitler!"…"Appeasement, derp-a-derp!") to justify the ridiculously-oversized military and your wars of aggression…

      The cognitive dissonance is amazing...

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    5. Nothing proves the point of this article more than the fact that the 'conservative' movement now accepts every bit of American socialism w/o question and still stupidly believes we live in a free country…once again leaving libertarians alone in opposing popular wealth re-dis programs like Socialist Security...

      QUOTING FROM CW'S ARTICLE:

      "...you begin with what seems like a noble purpose and you establish a set of rules."

      Hmmm…kinda puts one in mind of the "noble purpose" the 'founders' had when they created a "set of rules" at the Constitutional Convention of 1787...

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    6. The “Nazi Excuse.” LOL.

      Apparently your ignorance extends to the history of Nazi Germany. A wave of anti-Semitism had been growing in Germany for decades prior to the rise of Hitler and the enactment of his “solution.” The soldiers probably didn’t need much convincing to go along with his plans, but I’m guessing that conscientious objectors wouldn’t have been tolerated any way. Here, we’re talking about some questionable military exercises. No one’s being forced into camps or deprived of their rights, are they Einstein? So why is it surprising to you that people would follow those orders? You probably follow orders at your work that you don’t necessarily agree with as long they don’t go against your conscience. That doesn’t make you a mindless accomplice to some future crime that your employer might commit, and you’re entitled to the benefit of the doubt unless and until you go along with the crime.

      You’re not a patriot and you have no loyalty to this country, which makes you a silly fool who can’t possibly appreciate the people who put their lives on the line to protect this nation. You’re one of those nasty people who would sue a Good Samaritan who risked his own safety to drag your unconscious, sorry ass from a burning car because he scratched you in the process. That’s your mentality.

      The myth of conservatives as mindless sycophants of the military no matter what has been promulgated by Lew Rockwell types to create the fictional character that gets people like you to froth at the mouth. Obviously it works really well. I’ve done 81 posts at this site and I don’t believe there’s a single one devoted to slavish praise of the military. I understand that there’s potential for abuse of the military. It’s also possible that your house could burn down while you’re sleeping or a cement truck could tip over onto your car when you’re sitting at a stoplight. Does that mean you sleep outside or forego driving a car? No. You take a risk because the benefits outweigh the risks.

      The U.S. military isn’t going away. Ron Paul never suggested it should go away. Rand Paul isn’t running on a platform of disbanding the military. You may think it’s too big, but that’s your opinion. Even Rand Paul and his dad might differ in their opinions on how big the military should be. Your rabid anger and unwillingness to see the size of the military as a complex question that reasonable people can disagree on reveals the fascist in you (as do so many of your other comments). For the neo-anarchist, it’s their way or no way. How’s that for irony?

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    7. The point of the article was to shed light on the dangers of incrementalism. What qualifies as a “noble purpose” is an entirely different (and quite subjective) discussion; but since you brought it up, let’s talk about Libertarians and the Non-aggression Principle. Wikipedia tells us that under the NAP, “…each person has the right to make his or her own choices in life so long as they do not involve aggression, defined as the initiation of force or fraud, against others.”

      Does that sound like a rule to you? It sounds like a rule to me. So libertarians are not without their own rules for noble purposes. And if you have a problem with the Constitution, let me remind you yet again that Ron Paul is a constitutionalist. Same with Rand Paul, the candidate that you are threatening we must all support. So if the Constitution is your problem, you sure have a strange way of showing it. But then, I have always thought you were a bit confused.

      BTW, I haven’t heard Rand Paul suggest getting rid of Social Security. Have you?

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    8. We both know that any Republican candidate who doesn't fawn over the military (and Israel) like a 12 year old girl fawning over Justin Bieber stands no chance of getting conservative votes.

      We also both know that the vast majority of conservatives LIKE Socialist Security and will fight as hard as most liberals to keep this "free lunch" program going.

      The constitution is irrelevant…its those w/the power to interpret it that matter. Conservatives like Judge Roberts (appointed by "strict constructionist" conservative GW Bush) interpret it to grant authority for things like Obamacare…whereas libertarians like Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano would've sh*t-canned it in a second.

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    9. And no, RP didn't publicly suggest disbanding the AF's (armed forces)…though he'd probably be open to the idea seeing as how horrible having a standing professional army has been.

      What RP did suggest was disbanding the Empire and an end to the rape of the American taxpayer which--which Con and Libs have done for a couple generations how by putting the AF's at the world's disposal (esp. Israel)--which we can't afford to do anymore anyways. The AF's could easily be cut by 3/4 and this would've saved $100's of BILLIONS/year…but Cons aren't interested in common-sense defense-policy and much needed legislation--they'd rather achieve the same massive AF's reductions via nat'l bankruptcy.

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  5. CW [being led into a FEMA camp after having been disarmed by the military] says to a guard:

    "Thank you for your service. You are truly an American hero as evidenced by your mindlessly following the orders of the anti-American leftist who is in charge."

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    1. The neo-anarchist [being led into a FEMA camp after having been disarmed by the military] says to a guard:

      “I voted for the anti-American leftist who is in charge. I guess I showed you! [insert crazy laughter]”

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    2. Guess you have a point…however the difference between us (and 90% of your fellow Cons) is that I actually supported a liberty candidate when I had the chance to (nominating process).

      Once it was down to McCain/Romney VS Obama the only difference was deciding if I wanted a socialist who was 100% owned by Israel and who would start a nuclear war (i.e., Republican) or a socialist owned 70% by Israel who wouldn't start a nuclear war (Democrat)…as well as teaching Cons a lesson!

      You gotta hand it to me…it was good choice! An added benefit is that Cons/GOP grew a quasi-backbone and actually started opposing the President (not out of principle, but purely out of spite due to the "D" next to his name) as opposed to cheering the Imperial Presidency (as well as supporting horrific legislation like Patriot Act and adding yet more govt. agencies like DHS and TSA) as they did under GWB.

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  6. P.S.

    The philosophy of liberty has, believe it or not, been advanced by better understanding/study (including, gasp, locating errors in logic made by prior thinkers) and innovations by some very smart people since 1787:

    http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-391-is-limited-government-an-oxymoron/#disqus_thread

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    1. I’m not interested in hearing another smug, self-righteous anarchist lecturing me that there’s no such thing as limited gov’t. My answer is that there’s no such thing as NO gov’t either. BOOM! Now what, Einstein?

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  7. >>”We both know that any Republican candidate who doesn't fawn over the military (and Israel) … stands no chance of getting conservative votes.”

    Yeah, there tends to be a bit of a dog-whistle effect on those issues with people who consider themselves conservative, but at least it’s rooted in rational instincts for security and a realistic view of how exposed we are in a world that technology has made very small. Contrast that with the opposite “reasoning” of the neo-anarchists who will endorse no candidate who doesn’t trash the military and denounce Israel. There is absolutely NO logic or reasoning you can patch together that makes sense of such a stance. Disbanding the military does nothing to ensure greater liberty for Americans, and while I agree that we should not harbor blind allegiance to any ally, the pathological dislike for Israel that is the fashion these days makes about as much sense as, oh, nothing.


    >>”We also both know that the vast majority of conservatives LIKE Socialist Security and will fight as hard as most liberals to keep this "free lunch" program going.”

    Much to my dismay there are indeed self-proclaimed conservatives who like SS. That’s the magic of socialism. It’s a drug that people get hooked on. But there are also many for whom it is not a matter of “liking” SS but a matter of expecting, as any reasonable person should, that the promises made in exchange for the forcible confiscation of their money should be kept. If I am going to be forced into socialism than I am going to claim my share if for no other reason that to not reward thieves by voluntarily stepping aside. On the other hand, if a good candidate offers a viable plan for ending SS once and for all, I would willingly sacrifice any claim I have to SS in order to make that happen. Once again, though, not even Rand Paul will go there.


    >>”The constitution is irrelevant…its those w/the power to interpret it that matter.”

    Then why don’t the libertarians simply take over the country and disarm the judges and elected officials who are harming us? That would solve the problem.

    I can’t seem to make you understand that if the Constitution is irrelevant, and perhaps it is, then so is ANY alternative that the libertarians or neo-anarchists have in mind, because they have no more power to enforce their ideas of limited gov’t than we have enforcing the Constitution.




    >>RP didn't publicly suggest disbanding the AF's (armed forces)…though he'd probably be open to the idea seeing as how horrible having a standing professional army has been.”

    How “horrible” it’s been? In what way? Are you being held prisoner somewhere? Are you living in a refugee camp? Is the army preventing you from moving to Chile or anywhere else you would like? Were you thrown out of your house so the foreign soldiers could occupy it? Are you deprived of anything because a foreign gov’t has blockaded your ports? Do you have to type your inane comments with a flashlight under the bed? Get a grip, drama queen.


    >>”What RP did suggest was disbanding the Empire...and this would've saved $100's of BILLIONS/year…but Cons aren't interested in common-sense defense-policy…”

    How do you know that RP’s ideas with respect to defense policy amount to “common sense?” What makes RP qualified to know what military strategy and what forces are necessary to ensure our long-term security? I’m not necessarily saying it’s not possible that he would know these things, but seeing as how his background is in medicine and politics, I’d like a bit of evidence to support his position if you don’t mind. And there’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to put that evidence together if it exists, as RP is a man of considerable influence. He should be willing to prove to us that his “common sense” reasoning is based on more than his personal preferences.


    >>”You gotta hand it to me…[voting for Obama] was good choice! “

    You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.


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  8. At this point SS (and Medi) is a wealth re-dis program which is taking $ from poor young people and giving it to rich old people--funded by crushing federal debt obligations. Old folks (Baby Boomers and their parents) don't care how they get their extra monthly spending $--even if it means mortgaging their children's and grand-children's future--as long as they get it. Its totally unsustainable and immoral, but why let math and guilt get in the way of your "free lunch", eh?

    A large, permanent, professional army has been awful inasmuch as it had allowed politicians to get into all sorts of unnecessary conflicts. A standing army stands around and looks for things to do to justify its budget.

    Once again you reveal your utter disconnect from reality as far as military and economic matters are concerned. No nation or combination of nations today stands any chance of blockading or invading the USA--0% possibility. Even granting your point about the necessity for a socialist army/defense, common-sense SHOULD tell you that the USA doesn't need to spend as much as the rest of the world COMBINED in order to be safe. A small, defensive-minded navy (subs, some coastal patrol ships) along w/anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles, possibly a small air force, reconnaissance sats, and some kind of part-time/nat'l guard army would be MORE than enough for defense--the 1000's of nukes in existence are also a hell of a deterrent in case you didn't know.

    There is absolutely zero RATIONAL justification for the kind of AF's most Cons seem to want and is a clear indicator that Cons aren't interested in defense but in "Nat'l Greatness". Totally unsustainable, but again…don't let math get in the way of your irrational desires.

    At this point I just accept that Cons have a kind of mental-disorder when it comes to Israel…again, there's no RATIONAL reason for Cons' attachment to this parasitic state which heavily interferes in American politics and has committed numerous acts of aggression/espionage against the USA (possibly including the 911 attacks) over the decades…





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    1. “… SS (and Medi) is a wealth re-dis program…” blah blah blah … “Old folks … don't care how they get their extra monthly spending $...blah blah blah... Its totally unsustainable and immoral, but why let math and guilt get in the way of your "free lunch", eh?”

      Where are all the “young poor people” demanding an end to SS? Oh wait, I see them. They’re lining up to vote for DEMOCRATS. I suggest you educate yourself by researching the exit poll demographics following the 2012 election. The “poor young” people that you’re so worried about were more likely to vote for Democrats who won’t allow SS to be touched while people 45 and older (and especially 65 and older) were more likely to vote for Republicans who have long included SS “reform” as a priority on their platform. That “reform” usually centers around plans to put off benefit payments until people are older or to reduce/eliminate benefits to wealthier citizens. Thus if anyone was willing to risk a loss or reduction in benefits it was the “selfish old folks,” even though all of them paid into the program their entire working lives. As to your stupid comment about my “free lunch,” you have a strange idea of what constitutes “free,” and your hostility is misplaced, as usual. Changing SS from a Ponzi scheme to flat out theft, which is what you appear to advocate, doesn’t make it any less immoral. I already said I will give up all claims to the tens of thousands of dollars we’ve already paid if the program is brought to an end. But if the “poor young people” are going to continue electing socialists I’m not going to help them out by donating my benefits to make SS more “sustainable.” I’ll take the money and save it for my kids because they’re going to need it.

      >>”Once again you reveal your utter disconnect from reality as far as military and economic matters are concerned.”

      And what experience qualifies you to know what is adequate for our defense needs over people with greater life experience, greater military experience, and greater experience in world/foreign affairs? More importantly, what makes you better qualified to assess our military needs than someone – ANYONE – who actually cares about this nation? If Apple Computers wants to know how to grow its market share is doesn’t hire Microsoft to advise them, and an anti-American anarchist is hardly someone whose “common sense” should be trusted on matters of national security. So far you’ve shown yourself to be completely incapable of independent thinking and open-mindedness. Even the defense plan you cited was probably stolen from some other Bozo brain at Lewrockwell.com.

      I challenge you to show me ONE site where any conservative blogger has talked about the pursuit of “national greatness” via the military. If that’s truly what “most Cons” want then you should have no trouble whatsoever meeting that challenge.


      >>”At this point I just accept that Cons have a kind of mental-disorder when it comes to Israel…”

      LOL. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. If mental disorder is defined as an irrational obsession with something, then it’s quite clear that YOU are the one with the mental disorder. All we have to do is look at the evidence. Of the 81 posts I’ve done here, only one of deals with the subject of Israel, and that was FOUR years ago. You, on the other hand, can’t bloviate on any topic without finding a way to rant about Israel. What’s the matter? Did a Jewish kid steal the Twinkie from your lunch box back in grade school? Did your girlfriend leave you for a Jew?

      I actually agree that many conservatives are overly deferential to Israel, but ironically I think that’s natural pushback against the irrationally hostile attitude Democrats have adopted over the past decade to a nation that is – per U.S. policy - our ally. I know that you don’t understand the importance of developing and maintaining strong alliances with other democratic nations in this small world, but you are a child, mentally speaking, and these things are over your head.

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    2. Looking North I see friendly Canada w/its California-sized population…not exactly a threat. I look South and see…Mexico…not exactly a military powerhouse. West I see the Pacific…East I see the Atlantic. The two closest military and geo-political rivals to USA are China and Russia who, COMBINED, spend about half as much as USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures. I just don't know how to deal w/people who can't understand simple facts…

      How many Israelis do you know? What do Americans get (besides massive espionage and being tax-raped) from their "special relationship" w/Israel (only country to sink a U.S. warship since WWII)? Mental-illness I tell you…

      You're again promoting the myth that Republicans are more likely to cut govt. than Democrats. None of what you wrote about Socialist Security changes the fact that [relatively] rich old people (who own houses, pensions, paid lower taxes, worked when the economy was much better/freer and cost of living was lower, who were able to build savings during better times, etc.) are sucking the economic life out of poor young people...their greed is so rapacious that they've even gone after small children and the unborn to get their extra monthly fun money.

      What do you suppose future generations will think of the last couple of generations (Baby Boomers & their parents) who have SUCH an entitlement mentality that they literally believe they can hit age 55-60-65 and simply sit on their keisters and force the rest of society to support them?

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    3. “>>…China and Russia who, COMBINED, spend about half as much as USA:”

      Your cartoonish arrogance on subjects like this where you have zero understanding or expertise is reminiscent of Rosie O’Donnell presenting herself as an authority on physics and engineering to make her ignorant declarations about what happened on 9-11. Only someone who is desperately lacking in maturity would so brashly dismiss the opinions of people with actual experience and expertise in these subjects and then give us second-hand, cherry-picked information from political websites to pass off as their own opinions.

      According to your own chart Russia spent MORE than the U.S. as a percentage of GDP, which is a far more meaningful stat than a flat comparison of spending. And what’s to stop Russia from forming an alliance with China or any other nation to confront the U.S. militarily? Military alliances are pretty common throughout history, you know (or maybe you don’t). And as for your sniffy, junior-high remark about Canada having a population the size of California, maybe you’re not aware that both the Chinese and Russian empires suffered significant military defeats to the much more modestly sized Japan. As for Mexico not being a military threat to us, that may be true; but that means it’s not much of a military threat – or deterrent – to anyone else either. Both Mexico and Canada could make tempting gateways to the U.S. if we were stupid enough to leave ourselves that vulnerable.

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    4. >>”How many Israelis do you know? What do Americans get (besides massive espionage and being tax-raped) from their "special relationship" w/Israel (only country to sink a U.S. warship since WWII)? Mental-illness I tell you…”

      What’s “mentally ill” is someone who has reached adulthood in years but remains a child both psychologically and intellectually. How many Israelis must I be required to know for the U.S./Israel alliance to be a strategic benefit to the U.S.? I only know a handful of Brits, and we’re not close; however, I do have a close friend who’s from Scotland. Is that sufficient to justify our alliance with the U.K.? How many French and German friends must I have? It should be obvious that what makes sense from a foreign policy perspective doesn’t depend on the number of acquaintances any of us have from a strategic partner.

      Unlike you I make no pretense on being an expert in foreign policy. I view the geopolitics of the world as a complicated and constantly changing animal, and I prefer to put my trust on these issues in the hands of people understand these dynamics and who share my same desire to protect and promote the interests of my country. Instead of lobbing grade school questions at ME (How many Israelis do I know????), why don’t you read some of the essays from learned people making the case for our alliance with Israel and address their specific points one by one. If you want to do that to show that you can rise to the level of serious debater, I’ll be more than happy to read your rebuttal.

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    5. >>”… rich old people…blah, blah, blah….resentment…blah, blah, blah…hate…blah, blah…”

      I’m getting a much clearer idea of who you are now. Your uber resentment of the so-called “rich” pretty much says it all. Maybe Elizabeth Warren should be your candidate instead of Rand Paul.

      As I already proved to you, it is not the evil old rich people that are your biggest problem. It’s the “poor young people” who are too busy selling their economic souls for shiny, clever decoys like legalized pot and the “right” to marry their brother or sister to care much about their indenture into slavery. That’s what happens when the worst of “libertarianism” collides with “progressivism.” Just remember that time has a way of taking one’s years of hard work and the natural accumulation of possessions and turning “poor young people” into “rich old people.” It will be interesting to see if your perspective changes at all when you’re in the latter group.

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  9. LOL…

    If even a 'real' conservative like yourself doesn't see any possibility of making cuts to the big-ticket federal budget items that matter (SS, Medi, Military), why do you constantly rant and rave against liberals? YOU BOTH effectively, via your political choices, agree that the only possibility is to continue limping along w/the status quo. Shoot, even most libs can recognize that the Pentagon's budget is grossly bloated and ripe for cutting…ironically, LIBERALS are more likely to support significant cuts to the federal budget than cons...

    If a 'real' patriot like yourself isn't even willing to sacrifice your Socialist Security (and other 'free lunch' programs like Medi) for "the good of the nation" (or even your own children, grand-children, and great-grandchildren), how can you accuse liberals of being any bigger "unpatriotic America-haters" than you and your fellow cons are? I thought patriots were people who would make any sacrifice (even their lives) for their country, but you're not even willing to consider cuts to your 'free' federal goodies?

    Sigh…yes, SS at this point is taking wealth from RELATIVELY poorer, younger, working people and transferring it to RELATIVELY wealthier, non-working, older folks. Of course I'd expect someone on the receiving end of the 'free' stuff to defend it…and, appallingly, of course you (welfare recipient) are blaming the victims of your greed. I'm not sure what pot and gay marriage has to do w/any of this…and yet you wonder why young people aren't flocking to the GOP and its "social" conservatism. Have you ever considered how young folks view a 'conservative' movement and GOP which TALK about liberty and fiscal responsibility but which DOES the opposite when given power?

    Seriously, wtf is the point of 'conservatism' anymore? You don't seem interested in expanding freedom of any kind (as evidenced by your puzzling and stubborn opposition to pot legalization and gay-marriage)…no real ideas or will to tackle the major problems facing Americans…you, LONG AGO, abandoned any pretense of fiscal prudence...you guys don't recognize the utter failure of your foreign-policy ideas ("American Exceptionalism" and USA-as-global-cop)…the Republicans you routinely support have proven themselves as likely to drastically expand govt. as the Democrats you oppose…you support insignificant tax-cuts which accomplish nothing (since you don't support spending cuts) but impoverishing future Americans even more…

    All I see at Con blogs are people little-to-no better than Libs ranting against Libs…people who support awful Republicans making fun of people who support awful Democrats…a lot of folks pushing the Reagan Myth…a lot of military & Israel worship…people deluding themselves into believing America is still a special place (when its just another unfree, welfarist, regulatory-crazed, centralized, Western socialist state)…people who actually believe Republican candidates who tell them America's "best days are still ahead"…






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    1. >>” YOU BOTH effectively, via your political choices, agree that the only possibility is to continue limping along w/the status quo.”

      Says the clown whose ‘political choice,’ Rand Paul, is NOT advocating the end of SS. Pot & kettle.

      >>” LIBERALS are more likely to support significant cuts to the federal budget than cons...”

      You’re kidding yourself if that’s really what you think. Liberals only want to cut defense spending so that they can use the money to spend on more entitlements and welfare. They want jobs and free basketballs for those poor kids in Baltimore who loot and destroy because the taxpayers have neglected them.

      >>”If a 'real' patriot like yourself isn't even willing to sacrifice your Socialist Security … for "the good of the nation"…how can you accuse liberals of being any bigger "unpatriotic America-haters"…?”

      I’ve told you twice now that I would readily give up all claims to SS if the program were brought to an end altogether. If you continue to show yourself incapable of absorbing that information I’ll just send your comments to the trash bin. Your suggestion that it’s “unpatriotic” for me to allow the socialists to renege on the bargain they made and willingly cave in to their Marxist plan to fully transition SS to an unapologetic wealth-transfer scheme is bizarre. Why in the world would a self-professed libertarian advocate a Marxist scheme? Are you just a poser or what? Here’s a few more notes for you:
      1. I am still many years away from being eligible for SS and have never received any kind of welfare in my life.
      2. You’re a presumptuous little shit.
      3. The “greedy old people” that you hate so much today were once poor, young people who were forced to pay into SS and support retirees, just like you.
      4. I will remind you yet AGAIN that the evil old folks are more likely to vote for someone who wants to “reform” SS by reducing or eliminating their benefits. It is the “poor young people” who are more likely to vote for candidates who promise not only SS but also free healthcare, free college, free childcare and free condoms. Tell me again WHO are the greedy ones???


      >>”I'm not sure what pot and gay marriage has to do w/any of this…”

      Then I’ll explain it to you slowly. The leftists have figured out that if you dangle a few issues like legalizing pot or gay marriage in front of the immature voters that they will be completely distracted by these issues and not concern themselves with the fact that they are being robbed blind. In case you hadn’t noticed, it works really well.

      >>”Have you ever considered how young folks view a 'conservative' movement and GOP which TALK about liberty and fiscal responsibility but which DOES the opposite when given power?”

      They can’t be any less disappointed than I am, and for the record they would be disappointed in Ron Paul as well, because even though I believe he is a man of principle and would have every intention of doing what he promised the POTUS has only so much power (unless he’s willing to break the law like Obama, which I doubt Paul would do). Ditto for Rand Paul.

      The rest of your rant is the same old thing. Scolding me for voting for Republicans while you support a…………Republican! Pot & Kettle.

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  10. RE: Foreign Policy/Defense

    Sigh…again, what more can be said…if you can't do simple math and make simple observations about reality? Facts and basic sense simply don't matter to people like you.


    >>>"I prefer to put my trust on these issues in the hands of people understand these dynamics"<<<

    This is as good a distillation of the essence of Progressivism as I've ever heard…"Let's just put Smart People in charge of everything so we don't have to worry about anything!"

    I give you credit for attempting debate, its more than I can say for most Cons and Libs these days who, IMHO, are totally disconnected from reality and have been so dumbed-down/brainwashed by govt. schools that they can't mentally function properly.

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      1. You’re the one who didn’t know his facts or his history.
      2. It’s another straw man to say that I wanted to put smart people in charge of “everything.” I never said that at all. Only a fool thinks he knows everything and won’t listen to others.

      >>”I give you credit for attempting debate…”

      I’m sorry I can’t return the compliment.

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